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More PS3 With Kutaragi
Ken-chan discusses backwards compatibility and Cell graphics.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/624/624605p1.html

Wypowiedz Johna Carmacka (tworca min. Doom 3) na temat PS3 i XO

"HB: What are your thoughts on the Xbox 360 and the PS3? With the Xbox 360 now released in three territories, can you see yourself developing a game with either of those consoles in mind? �DOOM 3: Demonic Regions� for Xbox 360 & PS3, maybe?

JC: They are both powerful systems that are going to make excellent game platforms, but I have a bit of a preference for the 360�s symmetric CPU architecture and excellent development tools. The PS3 will have a bit more peak power, but it will be easier to exploit the available power on the 360. Our next major title is being focused towards simultaneous release on 360, PS3, and PC. "

Caly wywiad jest tu:
http://www.buzzscope.com/features.php?id=1248

I know you cant give any specifics on PS3 info that Sony hasnt released yet, but i was wondering: Are you creating the online for KZ3 or is this outfit, http://www.gamesindustry.biz/jobs.p...e=EU...ew&job_id=22257 ? I was wondering because it would be cool ofr you to be able to keep your mind on the game and let them take care of that for you.

Nope, all in-house. London offices are making their own games which will be online on PS3. I can't say much, but I will say that Online is going bleeping great.

Also I just wanted to know if the E3 presentation of Killzone 2 was in real-time or if it was just cg. Because I know a lot of people who say that the video is fake and I really want to prove them wrong.

As for the E3 presentation, it was not running live on Dev Kits, as the final spec dev kits did not exist for E3. It was created to the specs of the PS3 and represents what we feel is achievable on PS3.

1 more thing if i may, Will there be any KeyBoard/Mouse support for the next gen KZ???
That would be great to have the extra accuracy a KB/M allow's

Keyboard / Mouse support is a difficult one because of the balancing issues. First, you have to tune the game separately - once for controller and once for keyboard / mouse. Then, you also have the problem of keeping online fair - i.e. not letting the players using keyboard / mouse have an advantage over those using controllers in the same game.

It's a tricky problem - We do realize it is a requested feature, however we are not committing to anything at this time.

Question 1. Do you know how you came to "feel" that was achiveable?

Question 2. If you just looked at theoretical specs, did you take into account that you might not get all of it?

Question 3. Accept for the uber-high polygon count, you also seem to have effects that would not be achievable in realtime, like the hypervoxel smoke (atleast that's what people say you have in the trailer)

Question 4. Have you recieved the final devkits? Do you feel confident about it by now?

Answer 1. Our experience as game developers

Answer 2. Yep!

Answer 3. I've seen some amazing effects done real time by not only Guerrilla but other PS3 dev teams. As these teams continue to push what the PS3 is capable of - then we'll see just what is achievable in real-time.

Answer 4. Not allowed to answer that one.

Whats goin on Ferret. I have one for you conserning the vehicles, though I don't believe you can answer it. In the ew game, will there be vehicles in multiplayer? (kind-of like those guys at Zipper did in Socom3)

Unfortunately, we can't confirm or deny this at this time. However, this is on the official suggestion list.

How do you feel, personally, about next-gen development? Is it exciting for you as a developer to really unleash what you have always wanted and envisioned?

The scale of the whole project has gotten tremendously huge and daunting. The team sizes have grown to such an extend I don't know at least 15 of the people here anymore. During Killzone 1 I knew if someone made a bug in a certain level I could go to the person directly and talk to them about it. I knew immediatly where they sat, what their MSN was and now I don't even know their first names....It is all very exciting and scary at the same time, and the risk-factor for all new games seems to have gone up quite a bit. But the chances for making things that were previously not possible due to hardware limitations is really cool

PS2 had very little HARD-WIRED graphical effects and so they had to implemented via the software route in the Emotion Engine, has this learning curve helped you become more efficiant at coding for architectures like the EE ( i.e MULTIPLE CORE ).

Well, for KZ1 we had to code a lot for all the cores in the system (R5900, IOP, VU0 and VU1) and we spent a lot of time making sure the communications between the cores was as fast as it could be.

Now we're working with the Cell chip, which is a whole different ballgame. It's easier in some respect (easier to program for), but it's also a lot more complex, so a lot more cores to keep busy at the same time.

But in the end, yeah, programming a PS2's EE will give you a leg up programming for multi-core architectures, especially the Cell. Hope that answers your question! If you have any more, shoot!

So, what I would really like to know is, how does one go about organizing their objects in C++ to utilize the SPEs as efficiently as possible?...We've heard many times that programming for Cell requires one to "think differently" but by the sounds of some of your earlier comments it really seems that programming on the Cell is not quite as daunting as the rumors would have you believe.....Gabe Newell said in an interview on G4 that Naughty Dog was really far along with multithreaded programming. Now that you guys are a part of Sony, have you found it a good experience working with the Devs over at Naughty Dog?

More of these low-level questions on the board. Yeesh, are you guys coders, or what?!? I think I have to err on the side of caution here, NDA's and confidentiality with regards to Cell are still quite tricky. Cell is definitively different from anything else. With parallelism people often think 'multithreading'. But how good will it be, running threads on tiny CPU's like the SPU's, really? It works, but it won't be optimal. If you think of it more as a network of small computers sending each other packets of data, it all starts to make a lot more sense.

We've had some good contact with the devs in Europe off late and we're planning gettothers[/B. We haven't had a lot of time yet to meet up with the US devs, but that's underway too. It's all pretty new to us too, we were close to Sony before, but never really part of the group. It's definitely cool being part of the gang, Sony has some really talented people working for them.

How do you feel about the Killzone PSP title you have been developing?

Well, without getting in trouble - I can say that the PSP title is something I'm really excited to be working with the team on. Uh, don't know how much else I can say... Really, really excited!

One aspect of the Cell (and your game put me on to this with that E3 demo) that really interests me is physics calculations. One thing I'd like work with when I get my PS3 and a GCC compiler or two is some dual precision physics formulas. I wonder if it would be possible to run or store data on another SPE and program a routine for one SPE to reference a location on another SPE? That EIB looks like it has bandwidth to spare for such an operation, but I bet it would have to be massively complex. Real early on when the PS3 was announced with the Cell BE is that SPEs could run applications independantly or in synchronization somehow.

I can't tell you much more than you can deduce from the public specs from IBM, but I think you're on the right track. No SPE in the Cell is a slave to the system, so they can all move data around on the EIB. It would be wasteful for one SPE to use memory of another (why would you? each SPE has its own), but for physics you could have different SPEs doing different parts of the world - in parallel. Or you could have a few SPEs doing collision detection and others doing collision response.

Does that make sense?

On the massively parallel thing, there are actually developments in that direction. IBM has got something in development, called Octopiler (http://www.research.ibm.com/cellcompiler/compiler.htm), but I have not taken a look at it myself yet. But if you're on the case, you might want to check it out.

There's also loads of nice articles floating around on the net off late (on Gamasutra and other game-dev sites) about parallel programming, although most of the tend to be on threaded programming and not specifically Cell.

Posted on the Playstation website and some other gaming job websites leads me to believe that Sony is actually going to create a better, more cohesive online service

I'm am so treading on the line of NDA here. Um... we as developers are very aware of the features Xbox has for it's online service, and many of these features are things we believe are neccessary for our games. We do 1st party games for Sony, but there are lots of 3rd party developers as well - and these are the folks that Sony Computer Entertainment as a whole has to work with to create any kind of platform-wide system like Xbox has.

We don't have much insight into what discussions take place with 3rd party developers and publishers - but I can at least say that the SCE World Wide Studios (of which we are a part) is very committed to providing the necessary online features in our future games. We realize the direction online gaming is going, and we very much want to provide these features in our games. How this will come about is not something we can talk about.

Unfortunately, that's as much as I can say without seriously getting in trouble.

Firma Sony produkująca różne sprzęty elektroniczne ma spore problemy z dokończeniem PlayStation 3. Wyciekła informacja, iż po zobaczeniu wczesnej wersji konsoli czuje się pewien niedosyt, wręcz zawiedzenie produktem. Gry wyglądają dużo słabiej niż na XBoxie 360, a także pojawiły się problemy z silnikiem graficznym.

Zaraz po wycieku informacji szef firmy Ubi Soft - Yves Guillemot, powiedział, że konsola napewno nie trafi do nas na wiosnę, wstępnie termin realizacji premiery określił następująco:

# Japonia - Czerwiec/Lipiec
# USA - Wrzesień
# Europa - Listopad

Widać, iż kolejny raz europejczycy zostaną niejako pominięci, można się cieszyć jedynie, iż w Polsce PS3 będzie idealnym prezentem pod choinke.

www.fpp.pl

Cena PS3, wg analitykow, miedzy 399-699$
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6142242.html

PS3 jest słabsze od X360 -_-'

Maiden ale chyba chciał bys (nie tylko ty) aby PS3 okazał sie mocniejszy od X360(no chyba ze jestes fanboyem Billa wink.gif ), na pewno bys nie ucierpiał tylko dostał tak wygladajace gry jak Motor Storm.

Sony wpakowało w ta konsole pełno kasy i nie moga sobie pozwolic aby PS3 była słabsza od X360, baa...powinna byc mocniejsza.

Ano własnie wiem (napisałem to w poprzednim poscie)

Pewnie ze nie.Zapewne kupiłbym jak najszybciej. Ale smiesza mnie ludzie ktorzy nie mieli okazji nawet ZOBACZYC pada na oczy ( co tu mówic o grze, lub XBL ) a ktorzy krtytykuja konsole bo nie jest od SONY tudzież od jest od MS

Ale wiesz co o nim mówia devloperzy

Pozatym 2 x mocniejszy ?

"spoko spoko" we will see.

The Cell 3.2GHz o wydajnosci 2.18 teraflopa (218 gigaflopów)

trzeba pamietac, ze 3 rdzeniowy procesor jest latwiejszy do okielznania niz 7 rdzeniowy.

Ludzie zrozumcie jedno, procesor głowny w PS3 jest 2 razy szybszy od tego X360 i to jest fakt.